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Offline bryan275

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #60 on: November 23, 2017, 05:08:21 AM »
BMW did (the emblem, propeller against blue and cloudy sky). And a host of other big German multinationals.

Anywho, that's history.

Any confirmed numbers on how badly the boycotted companies have been hit in terms of customers staying? I don't have a clue myself. The only thing I'm seeing is full confidence in Safcon:


Of course, the newspapers could be making all this up, right? ;)

bryan what do you say about this news?

Relying on the rigged NSE as validation?  Pull the other one please.
That's why I asked you to provide us with the "correct" numbers (with sources), the ones you're basing your allegations that the boycott is working.


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BMW did (the emblem, propeller against blue and cloudy sky). And a host of other big German multinationals.

Anywho, that's history.

Any confirmed numbers on how badly the boycotted companies have been hit in terms of customers staying? I don't have a clue myself. The only thing I'm seeing is full confidence in Safcon:


Of course, the newspapers could be making all this up, right? ;)

bryan what do you say about this news?

Relying on the rigged NSE as validation?  Pull the other one please.
That's why I asked you to provide us with the "correct" numbers (with sources), the ones you're basing your allegations that the boycott is working.

I think you're being clever by half.  The market is buoyed by short term share profiteers whose interest in Safcom has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the firm. 

The boycott is still in its infancy and you know very well that performance data is not available yet.  But the behaviour of the dealer network is telling as demand has tailed off, otherwise they won't be crying at press conferences.

I say let's wait for Safcom quarterly results if at all they'll be truthful about them.  I've got relatives at Safcom and they are jumping ship. 

Let's revisit in 6 months. 

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2017, 08:11:15 AM »
Is burning and destroying masts boycott or vandalism? Safaricom is creating an ecosystem that most people will find it hard to avoid. The Mpesa,voice and data, fibre(cheapest in town), Mshwari and now masoko ecommerce. Ultimately everyone is driven by their own selfish reasons, I don't use safaricom cause I love it but cause I get value for my money period.

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2017, 10:31:32 AM »
Is burning and destroying masts boycott or vandalism? Safaricom is creating an ecosystem that most people will find it hard to avoid. The Mpesa,voice and data, fibre(cheapest in town), Mshwari and now masoko ecommerce. Ultimately everyone is driven by their own selfish reasons, I don't use safaricom cause I love it but cause I get value for my money period.

Boycotters are aware Safaricom is into all those products. Safaricom's competitors also know that very well. People who conscientiously biycott products and services kniw there will be inconvenuences. Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat kniwing it was incobvenient to have Bazungu eyes on her and tge racist law enforcement poluce after her. It's a ling journey. If you choose to support the Jubilee fraud complex prepare for your journey. Others have their own journey as well.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2017, 06:13:30 PM »
BMW did (the emblem, propeller against blue and cloudy sky). And a host of other big German multinationals.

Anywho, that's history.

Any confirmed numbers on how badly the boycotted companies have been hit in terms of customers staying? I don't have a clue myself. The only thing I'm seeing is full confidence in Safcon:


Of course, the newspapers could be making all this up, right? ;)

bryan what do you say about this news?

Relying on the rigged NSE as validation?  Pull the other one please.
That's why I asked you to provide us with the "correct" numbers (with sources), the ones you're basing your allegations that the boycott is working.


Yo
BMW did (the emblem, propeller against blue and cloudy sky). And a host of other big German multinationals.

Anywho, that's history.

Any confirmed numbers on how badly the boycotted companies have been hit in terms of customers staying? I don't have a clue myself. The only thing I'm seeing is full confidence in Safcon:


Of course, the newspapers could be making all this up, right? ;)

bryan what do you say about this news?

Relying on the rigged NSE as validation?  Pull the other one please.
That's why I asked you to provide us with the "correct" numbers (with sources), the ones you're basing your allegations that the boycott is working.

I think you're being clever by half.  The market is buoyed by short term share profiteers whose interest in Safcom has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the firm. 

The boycott is still in its infancy and you know very well that performance data is not available yet.  But the behaviour of the dealer network is telling as demand has tailed off, otherwise they won't be crying at press conferences.

I say let's wait for Safcom quarterly results if at all they'll be truthful about them.  I've got relatives at Safcom and they are jumping ship. 

Let's revisit in 6 months.
Hokay.

I'm ready to admit I'm wrong if the Safcon numbers don't reflect the boycott as damaging as NASA supporters are making it out to be.

Interestingly, you left yourself a way out for you not to admit you may be wrong by stating and I quote you "if at all they'll be truthful about them."

Fascinating.

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #64 on: November 23, 2017, 08:07:55 PM »
Public companies are audited and it's criminal to lie about their numbers.
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #65 on: November 23, 2017, 11:49:07 PM »
Boycott, sabotage what difference does it make when dealing with a company that was used to circumvent the will of the people? A company that has been used to track and assassinate kenyans. It's upon safaricom to find way to secure their assets.

 Something strange,
Why did Vodafone swap it's safaricom shares with vodacom one day before the elections?
 
Is burning and destroying masts boycott or vandalism? Safaricom is creating an ecosystem that most people will find it hard to avoid. The Mpesa,voice and data, fibre(cheapest in town), Mshwari and now masoko ecommerce. Ultimately everyone is driven by their own selfish reasons, I don't use safaricom cause I love it but cause I get value for my money period.

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #66 on: November 23, 2017, 11:50:49 PM »
Welcome to banana republic. This is Kenya

Public companies are audited and it's criminal to lie about their numbers.

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #67 on: November 24, 2017, 08:43:24 AM »
Public companies are audited and it's criminal to lie about their numbers.


It's also criminal to rig elections,  murder citizens and to intimidate state officers in order to influence them.

Audits will be a walkover in this environment

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #68 on: November 24, 2017, 12:18:30 PM »
Public companies are audited and it's criminal to lie about their numbers.


It's also criminal to rig elections,  murder citizens and to intimidate state officers in order to influence them.

Audits will be a walkover in this environment

Took 50+ years but we've done it, haven't we?


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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #69 on: November 24, 2017, 05:10:53 PM »
wow bryan do you even trust the little Kenyan left in you?
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #70 on: November 24, 2017, 05:39:40 PM »
Public companies are audited and it's criminal to lie about their numbers.


It's also criminal to rig elections,  murder citizens and to intimidate state officers in order to influence them.

Audits will be a walkover in this environment

Took 50+ years but we've done it, haven't we?


Who's the "we" that's done the "it" here? If this is another damn-all-Kenyans argument, let me just say I strongly disagree.

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #71 on: November 24, 2017, 06:22:58 PM »
BMW did (the emblem, propeller against blue and cloudy sky). And a host of other big German multinationals.

Anywho, that's history.

Any confirmed numbers on how badly the boycotted companies have been hit in terms of customers staying? I don't have a clue myself. The only thing I'm seeing is full confidence in Safcon:


Of course, the newspapers could be making all this up, right? ;)

bryan what do you say about this news?

Relying on the rigged NSE as validation?  Pull the other one please.
That's why I asked you to provide us with the "correct" numbers (with sources), the ones you're basing your allegations that the boycott is working.


Yo
BMW did (the emblem, propeller against blue and cloudy sky). And a host of other big German multinationals.

Anywho, that's history.

Any confirmed numbers on how badly the boycotted companies have been hit in terms of customers staying? I don't have a clue myself. The only thing I'm seeing is full confidence in Safcon:


Of course, the newspapers could be making all this up, right? ;)

bryan what do you say about this news?

Relying on the rigged NSE as validation?  Pull the other one please.
That's why I asked you to provide us with the "correct" numbers (with sources), the ones you're basing your allegations that the boycott is working.

I think you're being clever by half.  The market is buoyed by short term share profiteers whose interest in Safcom has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the firm. 

The boycott is still in its infancy and you know very well that performance data is not available yet.  But the behaviour of the dealer network is telling as demand has tailed off, otherwise they won't be crying at press conferences.

I say let's wait for Safcom quarterly results if at all they'll be truthful about them.  I've got relatives at Safcom and they are jumping ship. 

Let's revisit in 6 months.
Hokay.

I'm ready to admit I'm wrong if the Safcon numbers don't reflect the boycott as damaging as NASA supporters are making it out to be.

Interestingly, you left yourself a way out for you not to admit you may be wrong by stating and I quote you "if at all they'll be truthful about them."

Fascinating.

You and I know that very little that comes out of our beloved nation today can stand the smell test.  Integrity is a very foreign concept thank you to the corruption enabling environment that the thieving bastards have presided over.


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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #72 on: November 24, 2017, 06:24:11 PM »
wow bryan do you even trust the little Kenyan left in you?

Er.... no.  Should I?

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #73 on: November 24, 2017, 06:31:44 PM »
wow bryan do you even trust the little Kenyan left in you?

Er.... no.  Should I?
Imagine that...asking sane people to trust in the honesty of thugs. It must be lovely in that rose-coloured universe, wish I could move there.  :D

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #74 on: November 24, 2017, 07:05:51 PM »
wow bryan do you even trust the little Kenyan left in you?

Er.... no.  Should I?
Imagine that...asking sane people to trust in the honesty of thugs. It must be lovely in that rose-coloured universe, wish I could move there.  :D


Trust me you do not want to move there.  I have developed sores from intensive head scratching in wonderment.  I am blown away by the constant reference to the constitution, obeying of the law, respect for the supreme court, the independence of institutions like IEBC by the thieving bastards.  It's like a section of our society resides in some parallel universe where good has been reversed with bad. 

Mind how you go

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #75 on: November 24, 2017, 08:25:02 PM »
Public companies are audited and it's criminal to lie about their numbers.


It's also criminal to rig elections,  murder citizens and to intimidate state officers in order to influence them.

Audits will be a walkover in this environment

Took 50+ years but we've done it, haven't we?


Who's the "we" that's done the "it" here? If this is another damn-all-Kenyans argument, let me just say I strongly disagree.
We as a nation. Otherwise how do you explain why our country is in tatters?

It's obvious that the vast majority of Kenyans have no idea what we want aside from putting one of our own in charge.

Go through the forum, as an example, and take a look at both sides. Nobody gives a hoot as long as their side is in power and eating. The crazy belief that Kenya can only prosper when our own is in charge is very prevalent in our society. Only a minority see the total BS for what it is.

Sad? Hell yeah but it's the unfortunate truth.

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #76 on: November 24, 2017, 08:29:55 PM »
We as a nation. Otherwise how do you explain why our country is in tatters?

It's obvious that the vast majority of Kenyans have no idea what we want aside from putting one of our own in charge.

Go through the forum, as an example, and take a look at both sides. Nobody gives a hoot as long as their side is in power and eating. The crazy belief that Kenya can only prosper when our own is in charge is very prevalent in our society. Only a minority see the total BS for what it is.

Sad? Hell yeah but it's the unfortunate truth.
This is factually untrue. Apart from Pundit, Kichwa and Bryan, who else here has "their man" eyeing the top seat? I know my reasons for hedging my bets with a Raila-led team. It's not because he is in any way, shape or form "my man" and it's not because I'm giddy about the prospect of watching him "eat".

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #77 on: November 24, 2017, 08:40:24 PM »
We as a nation. Otherwise how do you explain why our country is in tatters?

It's obvious that the vast majority of Kenyans have no idea what we want aside from putting one of our own in charge.

Go through the forum, as an example, and take a look at both sides. Nobody gives a hoot as long as their side is in power and eating. The crazy belief that Kenya can only prosper when our own is in charge is very prevalent in our society. Only a minority see the total BS for what it is.

Sad? Hell yeah but it's the unfortunate truth.
This is factually untrue. Apart from Pundit, Kichwa and Bryan, who else here has "their man" eyeing the top seat? I know my reasons for hedging my bets with a Raila-led team. It's not because he is in any way, shape or form "my man".
You're ignoring the bigger picture of my argument; tribal voting.

I do agree that on this forum (or any other) it's difficult to ascertain supporters origins.

But the tribal voting patterns confirm what I've written about "our man".

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #78 on: November 25, 2017, 11:33:23 AM »
Boycott worked so much Safaricom is now valued at it highest ever. Look like investors don't buy the BS.

Safaricom will definitely make more money next year than this year. They are tightening screws on M-pesa - make it hard for people to game it to avoid paying transaction fee -

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Re: Boycott is working
« Reply #79 on: November 27, 2017, 06:55:54 AM »
shocked that you finally have faith in Kenya casino aka NSE.
Focus on safaricom assets and revenue streams.

Boycott worked so much Safaricom is now valued at it highest ever. Look like investors don't buy the BS.

Safaricom will definitely make more money next year than this year. They are tightening screws on M-pesa - make it hard for people to game it to avoid paying transaction fee -