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Kenya Discussion / Re: Ida Odinga Vs Oburu Odinga?What is the end game?
« Last post by Modesty Blaise on January 11, 2026, 10:25:58 PM »
They will give Babu Owino if he can deliver Luo. It is about his value not raw tribalism.

Oburu will be confirmed ODM Leader.
Joho & Mombasa crew will accept it.

Babu is stuck - Gachagua want Nairobi - and will not support Luo after Sakaja.

Sifuna will get support of Gachagua
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Oburu = Jaramogi = the real heir apparent.
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To understand Raila.
You must seek to understand his father.
Jaramogi.
Raila hated Jaramog for 1) marrying many women 2) being a coward and 3) be generous so much to bankrupt the family
Raila sought to be different.
He was going to love and be loyal Idah, he was going to be brave (82 coup), he was going make billions and he was never going to give it away.

Raila last politics from 1997 (when he became 3rd) was to make serious money - first to rescue Jaramogi business dynasty.
Remember Jaramogi started as rich guy (like Matiba) who then became poor by sharing his loot.

Ruto, Mama Ngina &sons, Moi understood the money game -  Raila thought his father had charisma and didnt need to speed the money - and he used charisma all his life.

Kenya politics is MONEY MONEY MONEY. The state long failed to work. People need practical solutions. Hence MPs need CDF or they go home.

Raila failed because he saw politics as way to reclaim his father money - and did NOT invest money back.

Ruto like Moi and Kenyattas re-invest the money and harvest.
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You mean Wakenya wilikuwa wakioshwa from 2007 to 2025? Anyway, in Kenya there are conmen of different levels, with the likes of Raila at the top!

Yep! Tulioshwa kuoshwo as a country. But we were warned for years by almost every major politician yet nobody listened!


Raira is a conman


Raira is a conman


Raira is a conman


Raira is a conman

https://youtube.com/shorts/PB85RVg6c_0?si=AKM7Geb1Qk-D6RWM

Karua; Raira is a conman

And many more..

How do you explain everyone saying the exact same thing yet nobody believing it?

Tisasimplething

Cold hard gri gri, yaani the dark arts, yaani talismans, yaani sorcery, yaani ju ju, yaaani uchawi

Raira had his retinue of Naija witchdoctors on speed dial.

One Dangerous Man (ODM) he was!

Ni hayo tu

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Kenya Discussion / Re: Ida Odinga Vs Oburu Odinga?What is the end game?
« Last post by RV Pundit on January 11, 2026, 01:32:51 PM »
Oburu will be confirmed ODM Leader.
Joho & Mombasa crew will accept it.

Babu is stuck - Gachagua want Nairobi - and will not support Luo after Sakaja.

Sifuna will get support of Gachagua
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You mean Wakenya wilikuwa wakioshwa from 2007 to 2025? Anyway, in Kenya there are conmen of different levels, with the likes of Raila at the top!
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Ahmednasir Abdullahi SC

@ahmednasirlaw


H.E Rigathi Gachagua is unapologetically a Kikuyu supremist and a tribalist class A. But he makes a valid point when he calls out leaders from Northern Kenya and tells the truth about them. Hon Rigathi Gachagua is 💯 right when he says (a) Northern Kenya leaders are thieves who steal from their people and invest public funds in Nairobi, (b) Northern Kenyan leaders can't account for about Kshs 1 trillion given to the region since devolution started in 2013. (c) Northern Kenya leaders have not built world class institutions ie schools, hospitals etc and have EATEN CDF money. (d) Northern Kenyans leaders including MCAs are all domiciled in Nairobi and have homes, wives and children only in Nairobi and none in Northern Kenya. Look at Garissa and Marsabit. Where did Kshs 300 billion in devolution money go to? Leaders steal money left, right and centre and nothing happens. Gachagua is playing politics, but when he talks about Northern Kenyan leaders and how they have let down their people he is being truthful and i'm with him 💯

https://x.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/2009883934973407357
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Kenya Discussion / Re: Ida Odinga Vs Oburu Odinga?What is the end game?
« Last post by RV Heavy Hitter! on January 10, 2026, 08:06:45 PM »
ODM's future after the death of Raila remains bleak, just like DCP. UDA will rule the country for the next decade or so! Today's well-organised party elections was the most sought after by thousands of candidates
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Kenya Discussion / Re: Ida Odinga Vs Oburu Odinga?What is the end game?
« Last post by Nowayhaha on January 10, 2026, 05:10:36 PM »
ODM died in 2007 after trying to rig and still losing to Kibaki
In 2013 they became CORD , in 2017 NASA and 2022 Azimio.
ODM is where KANU was after Moi left power . Maximum Mps who will be elected on ODM will be around 10 if they Join Ruto around 30 if they run alone .
Oburu , Ida , old generation and some tumbocrats are after Rutos money . New generation politicians Babu Sifuna are after they political future while the likes of Orengo after legacy . Same thing with KANU after exit from power and FORD Kenya after demise of Kijana Wamalwa.
There will be new parties like New ODM or ODM Kenya (Not Wiper) . Ruto will fight tooth and nail to finish ODM like he did In 2008 and also did with Jubilee in 2022
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